22 October 2009

What is Benedict up to????


To say I was stunned by the announcement from the Vatican this week was an understatement. As the Church of England tries to navigate our way through the complex issues we face, we suddenly get landed with the news that Pope Benedict has provided for an Apostolic Constitution to allow disaffected Anglicans to move to the Roman Catholic Church but keep distinctive anglican identity within what are interestingly called "Personal Ordinariates". This means I assume they could have married priests and anglican prayer books within Roman Catholicism. Yet Rome doesn't even recognise our sacraments or ordinations as valid. So I assume any clergy taking up this offer will need to be re-ordained.
From from I can see, this was landed on Lambeth Palace with little or no heads up, and/or consultation. One wonders what our so called ecumenical instruments have actually delivered when it seems the Vatican will do what it likes when it likes. From all I have read Rowan Williams looked distinctively uncomfortable in the joint press conference with the head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, Vincent Nicholls.
I am a little confused why the Archbishop of Canterbury did a joint press conference which would seem to the world to show that he was in agreement with this move, when clearly he was only told of the move shortly before the announcement. I am not sure if I were the Archbishop of Canterbury that I would have held that press conference, and certainly not at the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church in London.
In fact on the Lambeth Palace website his letter to anglican bishops says “I am sorry that there has been no opportunity to alert you earlier to this. I was informed of the planned announcement at a very late stage"
This move by the Vatican is a bold and shocking move. It is an attempt by Rome to poach disaffected anglicans in England, who will now hold a gun to the head of the General Synod that unless they get their way on women's ordination as bishops they will leave en masse to Rome. It is a vehicle for blackmail, and as one commentator put it, it seems the Pope has put his tanks on the lawn of Lambeth Palace.
I do accept a huge swathe of common ground between Roman Catholicsm and Anglicanism, but there are huge differences in our understanding of our faith. I am an evangelical, and I believe in the salvation of people by faith alone. The cross has said it all. And in addition I cannot accept the role of the Bishop of Rome as infallable and all powerful. Anglicanism is as the Archbishop of York often says both "catholic and reformed". We are reformed, and we need to hold to our distinctive uniqueness. But this move by Pope Benedict looks like a predatory move.

8 comments:

Question of Identity said...

Couldn't agree more Mark. What is he up to? His actions seem designed to cause division.

I tossed a coin to see if I should go over to Rome - thankfully it landed on heads - so I'm stopping! lol

Anonymous said...

If they want a home elsewhere they will leave. This is politics and nothing to do with serving Jesus and everything to do with whether Anglicans will be catholic or reformed.

Anglican have a creed "one catholic and apostolic church" so we have to live with it and hope God cuts through alll this.

Anonymous said...

Great article about all this by the brilliant Frank Skinner. A practising Roman Catholic doesn't welcome the move (and he challenges the current fad for atheism along the way): http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/frank_skinner/article6886168.ece

Andrew Wooding

Anonymous said...

I am having a hard time getting worked up about this. I don't believe in the Anglican Communion - I believe in the body of Christ.

Surely what's more important is unity (within diversity) in the body of Christ, rather than trying to preserve something (the Anglican communion) that is legally unified, but emotionally clearly isn't!

Surely people can go and worship wherever they want to. We're all just part of this greater thing, of which Anglicanism and Roman Catholicism are one small part.

Happy to be corrected. I often am!

Andrew Wooding

Ijeoma said...

I think the way this was done is actually quite sad and disrespectful. It could have been handled differently. If it was really meant to help then it could have been developed jointly or at least in dialogue. I now have no respect for the pope. He just seems to come across as an underhand and crafty politician. It is not what i would have expected from the Roman Catholic church. Maybe there is an explanation for the way this was done but it just doesnt look good.

I am also amazed that opinions are being voiced about clergy taking their parish churches and parish property and converting them to Roman Catholic parishes. I didnt know that incumbents could dispose of church property as they pleased. If Church of England bishops and priests wish to convert then they should do so and become Roman Catholics and leave the property behind!!

I also think Church of England parishioners must be fed up with all these arguments. i feel sorry for congregations who are constantly pulled into these debates.

As C of E ordinand i am trying to learn from this. I do find all the factions in the C of E and all the arguments about women, sexuality, traditions etc etc truly exhausting!! I wonder what we could have been doing if we were not taken up with all these internal wranglings. Why isnt our focus on mission??

The question is who are we really serving?

And as I prepare for ordination it is a question that I intend to ask myself regularly.

Jonny Spoor said...

We live in strange times and the church reflects that..

If you haven't read Hans Kung's commentary on these events it's worth a read. Wouldn't agree with all of it but raises some good points

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/27/catholicism-pope-anglicanism-church

Hope you're well, hopefully see you in the (distant) future. You've blagged a trip to Australia why not try a trip to Paris...:)

londonlad said...

Yes, well it is an unexpected, though not an unusual move. John Paul allowed married Anglican clergy to ‘Pope’ after the ordination of women debacle in the 1990s. However far fewer poped that was expected and I think the same will happen again. Indeed the RC church has done this other national and Catholic churches that have points of divergence.

Benedict, like his predecessor, is not a great fan of Vatican II, and is a bit of a reactionary, wanting to return to the days of a much more powerful Church. That said being ‘reactionary’ is the vogue in many Christian denominations and is never more apparent than in the Anglican fold; a once tolerant and broad church is becoming polarised and divisive.

I think what would be the best thing for the CofE is disestablishment; a sundering of the church and state because at present it is neither one thing or the other – i.e. is it a remnant of a very different political order – basically ‘stolen’ from the Roman Church in the 1530s? Or an independent Christian voice? Disestablishment would allow the Church to stand on its own.

A priest friend of mine who has recently left parish ministry to take up a post in a theological college commented that the house he has just bought is the smallest house he has had in his married life; as a curate and vicar he and his family have enjoyed Anglican Des Res living up until now. My comment, when he mentioned this was ‘Welcome to the real world...’.

Perhaps if the ministers and priests of these monolithic, ancient, outmoded, Christian organisations – the RC and Church of England – had to go it alone, earning their keep from their flock and not the Church Commissioners’ coffers the CofE might have a little more street cred – and of course wouldn’t have time for petty squabbles.

Perhaps after the death of QE2 this might happen. I live in hope.

Anonymous said...

And if Frank Skinner's article wasn't enough, Richard Dawkins is now defending Anglicans and Rowan Williams:
http://churchmousepublishing.blogspot.com/2009/10/richard-dawkins-on-vaticans-offer-to.html

Andrew Wooding